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EverBlue · Jul 18, 2005, 02:44 AM // 02:44

My ignore list is empty. I'm saving for a rainy day. Besides, if I don't tear into someone, I just pay no attention to them. They usually stop fairly quick, believing they're ignored.

SOT · Jul 18, 2005, 03:18 AM // 03:18

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Originally Posted by EverBlue

My ignore list is empty. I'm saving for a rainy day. Besides, if I don't tear into someone, I just pay no attention to them. They usually stop fairly quick, believing they're ignored.

You lucky, lucky bastard! I wish that were true

Blow_Holez · Jul 18, 2005, 03:30 AM // 03:30

Lol, my ignore list is empty too. As for the arguemnet about roleplaying, these people are just playing a ROLE ina ROLEplaying game. I do not care if they are rushed to draknors, unless they fill up the low-level arenas with their armor and elites. Then they are playing the role of jackasses. Lol, but atleast they do fit into your ROLE playing fantasy.

psycore · Jul 18, 2005, 06:00 AM // 06:00

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Originally Posted by Master Oria

I agree
They just dont understand what a ROLE PLAYING GAME is. or the fact that it is just a game. Some people just play to be #1 in all the ladders in all the games. they dont really care about the game itself. Look at D2. that game practicly became unplayable. Some other people just play to sell stuff on ebay. which pisses me off even more. When I buy a game like GW or any other RPG, its because I enjoy fantasy and I enjoy leaving the real world for a fantasy world for a bit. ( in other words: to Role-Play in a Role-playing Game).

After you have spent 500+ hours taking 3 characters or so to the end game content the long way you really dont feel like doing it all again, in fact I think you would of earned the right to take the shortcuts, after all ANet put them in there for a purpose, they are exploration zones. It's not a matter of being "stupid" or "lazy" I have been there through the content many times and now I look for a different challenge, it is just as close minded and "stupid" to automatically assume those who head to Droknar's early haven't been through the game properly once or twice or even three times. There is no #1 pve ladder, the low level pve player affects no one else but themselves if they use 1.5k armour, tell me exactly how does this alter the balance of _your_ pve experience, simple put - it doesn't. If ANet were adamant about forcing players to experience the full pve missions and everything they would of implemented a system to force this. Maybe this is a partial solution, you wont be able to head to Droknar's with other charatcers till you've run all the missions at least once with one of your characters?

PVP on the other hand is where the abuse occurs and I am quite against this, using skills and armour you should not rightfully have in a certain arena to purposefully defeat other characters for self gratification in my mind is griefing.

blane · Jul 18, 2005, 06:18 AM // 06:18

What if ANet set the minimum level requirement for each armor levels? I hope it will solve this problem.

Master Oria · Jul 18, 2005, 06:25 AM // 06:25

Why bother making a fourth character if he's only gonna get rushed. May as well make him a pvp character. You might of played 500+, but once you start looking for shortcuts and and start running characters, Maybe Its time to take a break since your obliviously dont enjoy the game anymore.
I'm at 448 hours total and a bit over two months ( bought the game when it got released ) and only one character is finish the game, the other 3 are all between level 10 and 14. And I'm not sick of playing it fully yet.
But, hey, it normally takes me about a year or so to get sick of a rpg like that and I dont think after 2 months anyone would already have a full experiance of a game. Usually if you do is mainly because you have hurried trough most of it and did'nt spend the time to enjoy every aspect of it.

TheGreatBoo · Jul 18, 2005, 06:32 AM // 06:32

There are ways to get wherever you need to go at a very low level. Going to droknars is a very difficult trek from beacons. It's even harder as a run. I have found several ways around the exp gain, but I would rather not encourage the cheap runs to droknars, just so that you can stand half a chance with normal players in the lower level arenas. And yes, it is very possible to get to different places at low levels. I have a tendency to run guildmates from ascalon to lions arch. And no, I'm not a hypocrite, it's not for better armor and skills in the lower arenas.

psycore · Jul 18, 2005, 07:32 AM // 07:32

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Originally Posted by Master Oria

Why bother making a fourth character if he's only gonna get rushed. May as well make him a pvp character. You might of played 500+, but once you start looking for shortcuts and and start running characters, Maybe Its time to take a break since your obliviously dont enjoy the game anymore.
I'm at 448 hours total and a bit over two months ( bought the game when it got released ) and only one character is finish the game, the other 3 are all between level 10 and 14. And I'm not sick of playing it fully yet.
But, hey, it normally takes me about a year or so to get sick of a rpg like that and I dont think after 2 months anyone would already have a full experiance of a game. Usually if you do is mainly because you have hurried trough most of it and did'nt spend the time to enjoy every aspect of it.

Where does it state that I obviously don't enjoy the game anymore? Or again are you jumping to conclusions? Rushing my 4th has no bearing on my enjoyment of the game at all in fact I am still playing it because I enjoy the game so much - read my previous post about running my low lvl through Ice Floe, I will still go back and play all the quests and missions like I did with my first 3, the personal goal of getting to marhans at a low level was another thing for me to do amongst other self made pve quests. Don't make the mistake of automatically assuming just because it has take you 2 months to get where your characters are that I or others haven't appreciated or experienced in the full, the game content, I play pure pve and roleplay 1 char as well, trust me I appreciate the content quite well and probably more so than most. Sweeping generalisation's doesn't make for good discussion.

Evan montegarde · Jul 18, 2005, 07:45 AM // 07:45

I've seen a lvl 1 at Marhans Grotto.

Crazy stuff.

Master Oria · Jul 18, 2005, 07:49 AM // 07:49

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Originally Posted by psycore

Where does it state that I obviously don't enjoy the game anymore? Or again are you jumping to conclusions? Rushing my 4th has no bearing on my enjoyment of the game at all in fact I am still playing it because I enjoy the game so much - read my previous post about running my low lvl through Ice Floe, I will still go back and play all the quests and missions like I did with my first 3, the personal goal of getting to marhans at a low level was another thing for me to do amongst other self made pve quests. Don't make the mistake of automatically assuming just because it has take you 2 months to get where your characters are that I or others haven't appreciated or experienced in the full, the game content, I play pure pve and roleplay 1 char as well, trust me I appreciate the content quite well and probably more so than most. Sweeping generalisation's doesn't make for good discussion.

True, you probably are still enjoying the game and I might of been wrong to assume that you rush trough it to much. But you have to admit that there is only a minority of people that are like you. Most low lvls that get run are usualy doing it, for the reason I stated there:

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Originally Posted by Master Oria

Some people just play to be #1 in all the ladders in all the games. they dont really care about the game itself. Look at D2. that game practicly became unplayable. Some other people just play to sell stuff on ebay.

I'm sorry if I was kind of accusing everyone that got run there. but the ammount of people doing it for the wrong reasons is still a problem.

Witchblade · Jul 18, 2005, 08:38 AM // 08:38

Bah THEY are the noobs in all this.. they still have to go bck to do their quests to get some skills and open towns in jungle etc to buy new ones..

The only good thing is that u can get nice armor at the beginning, which proves it's quite a noobish attitude..u can quite easily beat the quests if u know how to play
Maybe that's also about braggin' "y got Droknar set, u dont, stupid lvl 10 noob stfu i owned u" Well if that's rlly the point, those kinda guys ll have to clean their keyboard after playing too much with their balls

those runs are lame and i think most ppl in Southern Shiverpeaks that leechers like that ll ask for help will say "get the f*** back to ascalon u moron"

But, i might be wrong

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Originally Posted by blane

What if ANet set the minimum level requirement for each armor levels? I hope it will solve this problem.

200% agreed

that d definitely bring balance 'bout this problem

Master Oria · Jul 18, 2005, 09:31 AM // 09:31

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Originally Posted by Witchblade

200% agreed

that d definitely bring balance 'bout this problem

I agree as well. most games do that anyways, this game probably should to.

xiuk · Jul 18, 2005, 09:33 AM // 09:33

ive never gotten to droknar's forge so it must be pretty far on and a level 4 got there

i got beaten by a level 4 ;-(

Enigmatics · Jul 18, 2005, 12:40 PM // 12:40

It takes 30 minutes to be ran to droknars by a competant warrior. I don't know why people are so angry about this; heckling the population of people that are bored and obsessive won't help, because most level 3s in droknars are part of that population.

fezz47 · Jul 18, 2005, 02:17 PM // 14:17

I find it very funny personally that anyone would want to cheat in a game like this. I'm only level 14 right now and I was hanging around Pikens the other day and there were all these people selling Altheas ashes, and people were running to the guy selling the ashes.

Why would anyone WANT to do this? The whole idea of the game is to explore and have fun. Gad, it must have taken me 7 or 8 trys to kill Garfazz, but I finally did it with 2 henchies and one other guy at my level. It was a challenge, and gave a feeling of acomplishment doing it. What the hell fun is it to just have it handed to you?? Why even bother playing the game at all?

I'm taking the whole game very slow and really enjoying it. But ya know, different strokes for different folks I guess.

Algren Cole · Jul 18, 2005, 02:49 PM // 14:49

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Originally Posted by Jade

Yes and if your name was 13 characters long (including the space) it would say that you were lvl 1 too. So long as you were lvl 10 - 19 that is. That guy was yanking your chain. The question you have to ask yourself is this, how could he have been lvl one and gotten enough done to finish the "second profession" quest that you need to finish before you get to post-sear? The answer is that he can't. Good gag though on his part.

his name isn't long enough to be truncated....and you can take your second profession in pre-sear without doing any other quests....as long as you don't kill anything that quest won't give you enough XP to level. It's very much possible to be a lvl1 at the frost gate.

Kha · Jul 18, 2005, 03:26 PM // 15:26

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Originally Posted by psycore

After you have spent 500+ hours taking 3 characters or so to the end game content the long way you really dont feel like doing it all again, in fact I think you would of earned the right to take the shortcuts, after all ANet put them in there for a purpose, they are exploration zones. It's not a matter of being "stupid" or "lazy" I have been there through the content many times and now I look for a different challenge, it is just as close minded and "stupid" to automatically assume those who head to Droknar's early haven't been through the game properly once or twice or even three times. There is no #1 pve ladder, the low level pve player affects no one else but themselves if they use 1.5k armour, tell me exactly how does this alter the balance of _your_ pve experience, simple put - it doesn't. If ANet were adamant about forcing players to experience the full pve missions and everything they would of implemented a system to force this. Maybe this is a partial solution, you wont be able to head to Droknar's with other charatcers till you've run all the missions at least once with one of your characters?

PVP on the other hand is where the abuse occurs and I am quite against this, using skills and armour you should not rightfully have in a certain arena to purposefully defeat other characters for self gratification in my mind is griefing.

I completely agree. I beat the game with all four characters, and played each mission from The Great Wall to Sanctum Cay about 4 times each in Beta. Just because I want to rush my fifth and sixth character to enjoy the other missions more doesn't mean I am a noob or lazy.

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Originally Posted by Witchblade

those runs are lame and i think most ppl in Southern Shiverpeaks that leechers like that ll ask for help will say "get the f*** back to ascalon u moron"

Just because someone is lower level than you doesn't make them a leech. My ranger was lvl 15 doing the Southern Shiverpeaks and I was definately not a leech. I knew what I was doing and didn't mess up in the missions. And I've grouped with plenty lower levels in missions there with my characters. Many of them actually know how to follow orders and work as a team. If you want to complain about leechers, then actually complain about leechers. But don't assume you know who is a leecher and who isn't. You'd be surprised how many lvl 20s, even monks, leech in game. Now that's lame.

I'm usually 3-4 levels lower than the rest of the people in areas. This doesn't mean I am incapable of playing the game. I just don't waste my time do every little mission bonus, every little sidequest for that extra 250-500 exp. I've done them with my first character. I don't need the items or extra exp. Just because I'm not, to me, wasting my time getting what I consider trivial exp doesn't mean I'm going to be the weak link of a team. This game is about skill and being able to prove you can overcome obstacles not because you have uber gear, or high level weapons, or are 5 levels higher than your foes. I'll take experience over level any day.

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Originally Posted by Yukito Kunisaki

I think it's fine and all to run to Droknar's but you mf'ers should REALLY stop ruining the people who try to play and win through real skill and not...

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Originally Posted by EverBlue

I don't care how good you are

The problem isn't the running. It's that people just want to be jerks in PvP. But a lot of people who are against this running have the same mindset that their way of playing is the right way. Don't try to act like the better man when your own ego is affecting how others can play the game. If you want it to be fixed, stop feeding the fire and actually do something to improve this so called flaw. Punishing others just because a few jerks screw it up doesn't solve anything.

Algren Cole · Jul 18, 2005, 03:33 PM // 15:33

if you're 3-4 levels lower than everyone else in the group...how are you contributing on an equal basis as far as dmg? just because you don't die doesn't mean you're helping. Don't you find yourself doing minimal dmg compared to the rest of the group?

Paralyze · Jul 18, 2005, 03:43 PM // 15:43

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Originally Posted by madness2k4

What on earth this game be coming to....

Now that is just so f***ed up, and it needs to be stopped as soon as possible

It needs to be stopped why? Because you can't/didn't do it? Get a clue you freakin moron. Worry about your own play experience and stop worrying what others do. I wish this game had a monthly fee to get rid of the losers like you. What do you care if someone was run to Droknors to obtain armor or even run to get 15k armor? My warrior had Droknors at 13. I've finished everything in the game. My monk had 15k armor at 8 and he's now 19. My necro has 15k armor at 7 (got it last night). Why do you care what someone else does? You don't have to group with them, you don't have to talk to them. Are you mad because they are probably a better player and have friends? My guess is most likely. My guess is that you are also the type of person to talk to the ghost in the UW (if you have even made it that far) which wipes that party.

Again, to all you people bitching. WORRY ABOUT YOUR OWN DAMN GAME.

xiuk · Jul 18, 2005, 03:49 PM // 15:49

it looks choopy as i cut that pic out of sceeny and it make it bigger automatically

Jul 18, 2005, 02:44 AM // 02:44	#41
EverBlue Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Canada, AB, Calgary Guild: Arcane Draconum Profession: W/Mo	My ignore list is empty. I'm saving for a rainy day. Besides, if I don't tear into someone, I just pay no attention to them. They usually stop fairly quick, believing they're ignored.

Jul 18, 2005, 03:30 AM // 03:30	#43
Blow_Holez Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mascoutah, Illinois Guild: Dragon Busters (DB) Profession: R/Me	Lol, my ignore list is empty too. As for the arguemnet about roleplaying, these people are just playing a ROLE ina ROLEplaying game. I do not care if they are rushed to draknors, unless they fill up the low-level arenas with their armor and elites. Then they are playing the role of jackasses. Lol, but atleast they do fit into your ROLE playing fantasy.

Jul 18, 2005, 06:18 AM // 06:18	#45
blane Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Singapore Guild: Sg Knights Profession: N/Me	What if ANet set the minimum level requirement for each armor levels? I hope it will solve this problem.

Jul 18, 2005, 06:25 AM // 06:25	#46
Master Oria Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005	Why bother making a fourth character if he's only gonna get rushed. May as well make him a pvp character. You might of played 500+, but once you start looking for shortcuts and and start running characters, Maybe Its time to take a break since your obliviously dont enjoy the game anymore. I'm at 448 hours total and a bit over two months ( bought the game when it got released ) and only one character is finish the game, the other 3 are all between level 10 and 14. And I'm not sick of playing it fully yet. But, hey, it normally takes me about a year or so to get sick of a rpg like that and I dont think after 2 months anyone would already have a full experiance of a game. Usually if you do is mainly because you have hurried trough most of it and did'nt spend the time to enjoy every aspect of it.

Jul 18, 2005, 06:32 AM // 06:32	#47
TheGreatBoo Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: PA Guild: Once again I'm a free agent. Quality guilds ahoy?	There are ways to get wherever you need to go at a very low level. Going to droknars is a very difficult trek from beacons. It's even harder as a run. I have found several ways around the exp gain, but I would rather not encourage the cheap runs to droknars, just so that you can stand half a chance with normal players in the lower level arenas. And yes, it is very possible to get to different places at low levels. I have a tendency to run guildmates from ascalon to lions arch. And no, I'm not a hypocrite, it's not for better armor and skills in the lower arenas.

Jul 18, 2005, 07:45 AM // 07:45	#49
Evan montegarde Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005	I've seen a lvl 1 at Marhans Grotto. Crazy stuff.

Jul 18, 2005, 09:33 AM // 09:33	#53
xiuk Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: [mupp] Profession: E/Mo	ive never gotten to droknar's forge so it must be pretty far on and a level 4 got there i got beaten by a level 4 ;-(

Jul 18, 2005, 12:40 PM // 12:40	#54
Enigmatics Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tenafly, NJ Guild: Defenders of Rillanon Profession: W/Mo	It takes 30 minutes to be ran to droknars by a competant warrior. I don't know why people are so angry about this; heckling the population of people that are bored and obsessive won't help, because most level 3s in droknars are part of that population.

Jul 18, 2005, 02:17 PM // 14:17	#55
fezz47 Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005	I find it very funny personally that anyone would want to cheat in a game like this. I'm only level 14 right now and I was hanging around Pikens the other day and there were all these people selling Altheas ashes, and people were running to the guy selling the ashes. Why would anyone WANT to do this? The whole idea of the game is to explore and have fun. Gad, it must have taken me 7 or 8 trys to kill Garfazz, but I finally did it with 2 henchies and one other guy at my level. It was a challenge, and gave a feeling of acomplishment doing it. What the hell fun is it to just have it handed to you?? Why even bother playing the game at all? I'm taking the whole game very slow and really enjoying it. But ya know, different strokes for different folks I guess.

Jul 18, 2005, 03:33 PM // 15:33	#58
Algren Cole Banned Join Date: Jun 2005	if you're 3-4 levels lower than everyone else in the group...how are you contributing on an equal basis as far as dmg? just because you don't die doesn't mean you're helping. Don't you find yourself doing minimal dmg compared to the rest of the group?

Jul 18, 2005, 03:49 PM // 15:49	#60
xiuk Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: [mupp] Profession: E/Mo	it looks choopy as i cut that pic out of sceeny and it make it bigger automatically